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  1. Tshifhiwa Mudzielwana says:

    I’m purchasing a property and my offer has been accepted. I forgot to put condition for the seller to give me the approved building plan but told the agent and the transferring Attorneys who relayed the message to the seller. The seller went to the municipality offices but there was no plan for the property. It is the only building on the stand/ERF. He bought the property at an auction as it was repossessed by ABSA. The NHBRC has confirmed it was enrolled before being built. Should I accept it to be transferred to my name before the approved plan is provided? Is Absa not supposed to have the plan since they financed it’s construction? Where else could a copy be obtained? What if the seller doesn’t want to counter sign the addendum to force him to provide it? Does voetstoots give him a right to sell an illegal property and what are my rights?

  2. Geoff Pethick says:

    My house in Roodepoort has a nice 4m x 4m Wendy house on stilts, including bath, toilet and hand basin.I’ve put my house up for dale and buyer has been told by bank to get plans and occupation certificate for the wendy house.
    Wendy house was there when I bought – OK so I thought – so how do I go about getting plans and relevant certificate and how long should it take. Will it have to be removed?

  3. We bought a house in Somerset -West ” voetstoots” Before signing contract we asked sales agent for house plans – assuming that we asked approved house plans, She gave us a copy of a piece of yhe plan. We asked for the full plan after signing the offer to purchase & received a plan drawn up in 1985 without alterations. We received also a drawing of street gates that were recently erected. At the municipality are no renovation plans & attorneys want us to sign for purchase without recently approved plans. What are our rights? We are told we did not specify on offer to purchase that we want “approved” building plans. We were put under a wrong impression that everthing is in place. Please advice!

  4. Nicolene Larkins says:

    I’m in the proses of buying my first house. Registration has not been finalised. We would like to see the bulding plans, because we are concerned that two carports are not on the bulding plans. The agent is saying that it’s not in the original offering to purchase therefore it’s not the seller’s responsibility to supply us with the original plans. We will like to find out what we can do? Please

  5. I agree, it’s very unfair.

  6. You need approved plans to be able to build and only the municipality will be able to tell you whether you can run a business from your house.

  7. Of course – but the owner might not oblige unless he/she is sure you are a serious buyer.

  8. The NHBRC warranty is valid for five years so that’s where you need to go.

  9. The local authority or a previous owner. If they don’t have them you have a problem.

  10. Mari Coetzee says:

    A buyer message on Social Media. What to do in this case? : As jul n huis in George koop maak asb seker by die munisipaliteit dat alle aanbouings op plan en goedgekeur is. Ek het n huis in Denneoord in 2012 gekoop. Verlede jaar verkoop. Daar word toe n bedrag geld van my teruggehou. Afdak. Motorhuis in wstel verander en wendy wat nie op plan was nie. Die vorige eienaar F. Coetzee het 2 briewe van die munisipaliteit (in my besit) gekry….let wel. In 2006 en 2011 wat hom aanbeveel om alles op plan te kry. Nie gedoen nie. Verkoop die huis aan my. Koopkontrak se alles is op plan en goedgekeur. Geteken deur agent en eienaar. Nou hou die prokureur my geld terug totdat ek als op plan en goedgekeur het. Hoe onregverdig is dit nie.? Prokureur en agente het weggestap met hul vet komissie en betaling nie hul werk gedoen nie. Eienaar met sy geld vir die huis en ek met n groot hap uit my sak. Prokureurs se dis nie hul plig om om toe sien dat als op plan is nie en agent trek hul skouers op! Maak dus seker voor jul huiskoop asb.

  11. where can I find lost building plans for a house in the midrand area?

  12. If you buy a house and it is stopped because owners need to draw up new plans due to buildings that are not on the plans. What is the flow of the process and how long can it take till approval

  13. Siyabonga Msibi says:

    we bought a House 2014, the house is falling now, we managed to get the PLAN now, but it has the NHBRC number and Tshwane stamp, but now the stamp is cancelled, soo how is the plan get an approval stamp then gets cancelled after selling the house. please help.

  14. If you see a house you want to buy can you ask for the house plans

  15. hi Penny,

    I want to add cottages on top of garages and maids cottage to rent it out and I was told that roodepoort town plan will not approve the plan because the house and the garage are separated. can I register my house as a business?

  16. hi my building plans burned down with munitoria now i need to get new plans, and get it approved with a electic, plumbing and engineer certificate to get a occipation certificate. all at my cost its going to cost me about 30 000 rand, so who is taking the financial punishment for the building burning down…………………ME
    SEEMS UNFAIR

  17. Hi Penny,

    I’m in a similar situation but the difference we renovated the main bathroom and kitchen which could be seen as “Minor Building Work” from what I understand.

    We sold the property a year ago but a while back the new owners finally received a plan from CoJ and apparently plans were last updated 1985 and it seems the building was altered extensively since then.

    When we bought the property we have tried numerous times to acquire the plans from the Estate Agent and CoJ but with no success. We have since relocated overseas so it is difficult managing this at the moment.

    Do you have any suggestions what to do?

  18. Contact the Tshwane local authority and report the matter.

  19. Technically they could fine you, but you’ve got a good argument in terms of changes made a long time ago. There is nothing that states you have to obtain plans when buying a house, though it’s a good idea. In fact we believe that it should be mandatory for estate agents to provide these when they are selling.

  20. Alison Paulin says:

    I have just asked my local authority for the building plans for my home, and apparently they are dated 1930 and have never been changed since then. The person I spoke said that this could cause me problems. I have not changed the structure of the house since I moved in, except for building an outdoor braai. But I’m sure it has been changed since it was built, clearly without approval. I don’t actually want to make any alterations right now. Is it true that the local authority can fine me or charge me with something?
    Also, I have never heard that it was required upon buying a house that one obtain the plans. I bought the house in 2001.

  21. I would like to know what can happen to a person how do extentions to their houses with out plans or notify planning dept
    In Centurion it happen to be the case .the two houses 1 in BLUE JAY 36 – and 1 in KRAANVOEL 45 ROOIHUISKRAAL these 2 house belong to one owner and he is renting out the bachelors plus minus 9 units and make some good money. As far as we know their is no plans for the extentions and modifications to these houses
    I would like the planning dept to investigate and do something about it
    I do not have a nr and do not know who to contact regarding this matter.

  22. Yes – but there is nothing that can force the seller to comply. It’s a matter of negotiation… One of the biggest problems is local authorities “losing” plans.

  23. Yes you must because the roof trusses will probably have to be changed due to extra weight. You can only change the roof covering if it is the same as on on the original plans – i.e. you upgrade.

  24. As the owners, you are liable now and the only thing you can do is have as-built plans drawn up.