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  1. Hi Angelo, When I originally put up this page, the relevant section of SANS 10400 had not been released. As you no doubt know, the sections were published progressively – over a very long period of years – and some time after the legislation was changed in 2008. As you also probably know, prior to this date, the then so-called “Code of Practice” for the NBR had last been updated in 1990. I was utilizing the information presented in the most recently published regulations.
    I guess that you are referring to industry standards? Anyway, I have now updated the page and will be adding relevant tables today. Thank you for your interest and your comments. Please feel free to return whenever you are able to, and to make comments that will help others who visit our site. Thank you. Penny

  2. Angelo Cameron says:

    This information is out of date. Timber grading system was changed about 10 yrs ago. Empirical designs should not be used as municipalities now require a rational design. Just go to The ITC web site and find a truss fabricator in your area.

  3. Danie it depends on the type of roof and the walls. This post on our sister site, OwnerBuilding, should help you.

  4. What provision must be made in the brickwork to anchor roof trusses securely before the superstrcture reach wall plate leve?

  5. Part L of the National Building Regulations deals with roofs.

  6. Hi there,

    is there any regulation for building flat roofs??

    Thanks
    Brent

  7. Graham I am not a builder. I am a writer with a fairly good knowledge of the regulations – because of the books I have produced. It’s called research. If you have been asked to construct a roof of any sort, I would assume that you are a professional with training and experience in this field. If not, I suggest that you employ someone who is, or tell you client to go to a professional who can do the job correctly.

  8. A client has asked me to construct a patio roof around his house. there will two valleys that measure 7.2 and 7.5m in length. Do you have any advise as to how I can accomplish this with rafters?

  9. You’re the one doing the thesis not me! I think the the FET Colleges Building Materials Level 4 covers this. But you’d best contact a reputable manufacturer of roof trusses.

  10. I am currently a student at CPUT, doing my Btech. I am thinking of doing my Thesis of the Behavior of Prfabrcated Timber Roof Trusses.
    How do you determine the Behavior of Prefabricated Trusses and is there any test that need to be done.
    Can you forward me any additional info which could assist me in this task.

    Best Regards
    Gerswin

  11. Albert van Wyk says:

    I have retired after 38 years in construction.What do i have to do to register, or become a competent person to supervise alteration and additions for the owner builder . I have noticed there is a gap in the market with the latest building regulations.

  12. I am sorry Chris, we don’t recommend people. Companies that manufacture roof trusses normal employ engineers to design them.

  13. Dear Sirs/ madam,

    I hope you can help…. I am constructing a house that requires custome raftes/ roof structure and I am looking for a engineer who can design them (Not make them – just design). Can you recommend some bodies?

  14. Carmel Glissmann says:

    Apologies if I am sending this twice. I replied to your mail yesterday but perhaps I did not submit as I can’t see it on website.
    Rabie Properties built our complex 8 years ago. They are thriving and active in our area and nationally, I think. They have not even acknowledged our letters, sent by email & registered post, asking for verification that the roofing regulations changed between the time of erecting the showhouse and the other units. We have the NHBRC Certificate so they were registered with this body. I shall try contacting them but I think they only cover roof leaks for a year and structure for 5 years. Do you think we should persue the legal course of action? With the new Consumer Protection Act we have to reveal that there is no underlay and thus the selling price would drop considerable or, in fact, the sale would fall through. Wish there was a way we could hold the builders responsible.

  15. Just so you are clear: the first bit in each section REGULATIONS is the law (there is another free download on that same page which details how this part has changed – but I have included that info on the website) Below that is a section on DEEMED-TO-SATISF-RULES. This is the national standard which has been set by the SABS. This free document does NOT incorporate the changes made by the SABS between 2008 and 2011. Those documents are available through their website at a fee; or you can visit an SABS library to view them. The “manual” referred to is one of two produced by the NHBRC.
    It occurs to me that whoever built your complex should have – by law – been registered with the NHBRC. If you know their name you can check on the NHBRC website. So you could, in fact, have recourse via this organization.

  16. Carmel Glissmann says:

    Thank you. I have downloaded and will look through the SANS manual.

  17. I tried to get into the site you mention, but it is for sale? In any case they are quoting the NHBRC Home Building Manual Part 3 – and what the manual says is not in keeping with the National Building Regulations. The NBR don’t differentiate between different areas; so for the NHBRC to say this is mandatory is nonsense. Even the deemed-to-satisfy rules set by SANS 10400 are “non-mandatory requirements, the compliance with which ensures compliance with a functional regulation” (which is a bit of a contradiction, I feel, since the requirements of the regulations state that they will only be deemed to be satisfied if the standards are adhered to).
    And what they say is also not correct, bearing in mind that quote is the same as in the copy of the manual I have, which was published in 1999 – and therefore should be referring to what was then the national standard. Download the SANS and have a look at the table on Page 90 (Minimum angle of slope). My suggestion is that this is good building practice for coastal areas, and not mandatory.
    As they say in the Introduction to the manuals:
    “The Home Building Manual is based on normal construction procedures and recommended practices, which have been shown to be satisfactory and acceptable over time.” They expand considerably on the regs as such.
    As I said previously, if the pitch of your roof is any less than 26 degrees (presuming the tiles are as I stated – viz. concrete, clay, or shingles) then I believe you most definitely have recourse against the builders. And the answer you were given by the developers is rubbish! That in itself should help your case.

  18. Carmel Glissmann says:

    WOW – amazing how quickly & comprehensively you responded. Thank you.
    Under http://www.thefacilitators.com/frequently asked questions I found this………..

    Is it compulsory to put a plastic under the roof tiles?

    Under tile membranes are a mandatory requirement in coastal areas and for tiled roofs having a pitch of between 17,5 degrees and 26 degrees or greater than 45 degrees. Under tile membranes are optional but recommended for roofs having a pitch of between 26 and 45 degrees. (Building Manual Part 3. Point 7.4.2)

    It is the ‘coastal area’ part that interests me. Although we do not have any serious leaks in the roof, the downlighters only work intermittently, there is fine dust dropping where the cornices meet the wall/ceiling and recently in strong wind, big chunks of paint, fell off the bathroom ceiling! I am sure this is because of no protective membrane. I wonder if we have any recourse against the builders?

  19. The National Building Regulations were first published in 1988 and then revised in 1990; and amended very slightly in 1993. The current regulations were published by the Department of Industry on May 2008 – and the deemed-to-satify codes of practice or South African National Standards (which are drawn up by the SABS), published progressively from that date. The last SANS were published last year. If you want to read more about this see an article I wrote for another website: National Building Regulations South Africa in 2010.
    I have a copy of SABS 0400-1990 (renamed SANS 10400-1990) which you can download free from this site by clicking on the link above.
    In Part L: Roofs, there is a general requirement that roofs must be “durable and waterproof”.
    LL5 WATERPROOFING in the deemed-to-satisy rules state that, “For the purpose of runoff of water” any roof with specific coverings (and these include all types of tiles, fibre-dement, clay, metal, natural slate etc) must be constructed to a specific slope – which depends on the roof covering (for tiles it varies from 10 to 30 degrees depending on type). In all instances, the regs give an angle for a) WITH an approved underlay and b) WITHOUT an approved underlay.
    For example, if single-lap concrete or clay interlocking tiles; concrete, clay plain tiles or shingles have been used, if there isn’t an approved underlay then the angle must be at least 26 degrees. If there is an underlay, the degree can be as little as 17 degrees.
    Just as a matter of interest, in the 2008 legislation, the “durable and waterproof” clause changed to:
    “is durable and does not allow the penetration of rainwater or any other surface water to its interior”… so it’s an expansion of durability and waterproofing.
    So long story short; if your roof does not have a slope of at least 26 degrees, the builders broke the law! Sounds to me like they probably rushed the show house to start getting sales.

  20. Carmel Glissmann says:

    Recently , our plumber while in the attic of our house, mentioned that there was no protective underlay membrane under the tiles.
    We inquired from others in our complex and they all have underlay. Our house was the showhouse which we purchased from the developer 8 years ago.
    We inquired why we did not have underlay and the developer said that regulations had changed between the time the showhouse was built and when the other houses were built. We need verification of this but do not know how to find out? Could you advise when the regulations changed. The house is less than a k, from the sea and my understanding from what I have so far researched is that all coastal houses should have protective underlay.
    If this is the incorrect forum to pose the question could you kindly redirect me.

  21. Sorry for the confusion Dirk. It sounded as if you wanted to construct a deck or patio with a flat roof 😉
    The regulations talk about “nominally flat” concrete roofs, because they should have a fall of at least 1:50 for drainage, though the NHBRC manuals state that the minimum fall should be 1 in 80 (1 in 50 is good building practice to ensure that it isn’t any less than 1:80). That said, I can’t find anything in the NBR or NHBRC manuals that refers to use of a “flat” roof.
    However I think it would be a safety issue. While “Public Safety” is covered in the building regulations, swimming pool fencing, and I am pretty sure also railings around raised decks, patios etc. fall under the local authority requirements.
    There is an interesting discussion on this forum that discusses a very similar issue – even though it is in the UK. So in your case, I can understand why the building inspector states that it would be regarded as a third storey.
    Funnily enough we are currently living in a house that has a “flat” roof over a section of the house. It is part of an extension that involved adding a second storey over a double garage. If you go to https://sans10400.org.za/extensions/ or click on this link, you will see what the extension looks like. You will also see how the patio, deck, platform (whatever you want to call it) has concrete balusters around the edges. There is a very slight run-off that doesn’t affect chairs, table etc.

  22. Thank you for the prompt reply Penny.

    However, the question is, if the double story house has a concrete slab as roof (known as a flat roof) or portion thereof, may one then utilise the roof as a deck / star gazing platform.

    Where can one read if this is allowed. The building inspector states it will be regarded as a 3rd story which may not be allowed. I would like to know what the rules state in this regard and when it will be allowed.

    Many thanks
    Dirk

  23. Dirk a “flat roof” is a misnomer because you need a slight slope to allow rainwater to drain. The absolute minimum is 3-5 degrees, though when it comes to patios and decks (which I presume is what you mean when you talk about a “star-gazing platform”) people often do construct semi-solid “roofs” with latte or similar materials that are laid flat. If you look at the new version of Owner Building in SA, there are some stunning pix that will illustrate what I mean. Our book, Patios and Decks also has some great illustrations, though sadly it is long out of print.
    But to answer your question in relation to the regulations; Part L of the NBR specifies minimum roof slopes in relation to the type of roof covering used. Various types of corrugated sheeting may be used to achieve a minimum slope. Any other type of covering requires at least a 10 degree slope. I hope that helps.

  24. Dear Penny. Flat Roofs are used in several countries for a patio or Star-Gazing Platform. Is it allowed in South Africa and under what conditions. Which regulation prevents it (if at all?)

    Thank you for this interesting website.
    Dirk